RE: Re; Kodachrome list

From: Barbara Lee Spinnenweber (BSpinnenweber_at_toromontprocess.com)
Date: 01/04/02


Hey Brian,
You make a good case since the archivalness is the issue. I've just gotten
used to getting E-6 slides back anywhere from 1 hour to 2 days (depending on
where I go). If I really like the slides then I scan 'em in and burn them to
cd's. And b&w negatives, I process myself. I've only shot a couple rolls of
Kodachrome when I first started and I was pretty impressed with the quality,
but as I said earlier: impatient. I've been bouncing around to various
films. In the photo. mags. I saw a lot of people using Velvia. So, I've
tried that. I think there are some other low speed slide films (Agfa?). I've
also used that medium speed Provia 100F (I think that's what it's called.) I
haven't really explored the quality of the film itself, I'm usually just
looking at the picture and if I like it or not and how it can be improved.
I've heard that the newer slide films have a good archival ability. But, I
don't know how they would know that unless they had a time machine.
Kodachrome has already proven itself. Why is it dying out then? Is it
because the processing is more complex than E-6?

When I shop at Wal-Mart or Target, Kodachrome is found on the shelves, right
next to a couple of boxes of EliteChrome. You wouldn't know that Kodachrome
was dying if they are sold in normal stores and even at the grocery store.
They don't seem to ever carry a consumer level Fuji slide film. I have to go
to a camera store or order online to get the Fuji slide film (or any other
brand).

I don't even think I'd shoot slide film if it wasn't for the clubs that I'm
in. I had previously shot negative film because it is more tolerant to user
error. However, recently over the holidays while scanning a roll and a half
of Christmas pictures I realized just how much color can be adjusted using
negative film. I had to adjust every single flippin' negative. And
unfortunately, when I was done and had them all grouped together on one
page, I realized that I'm not consistant with colors. Then I scanned in a
couple of slides. I barely had to make any color adjustments at all. Now,
I'm considering just shooting slide film as my color film. B&W will always
be shot with negatives. I've tried that Agfa Scala and although it's neat
seeing B&W slides, I wasn't impressed. They seemed really contrasty.

Maybe consider starting your own group and getting those other people
involved and then spread the word to various 35 mm groups? It's a shame that
you can't get into the list 'since it might have archived messages that you
could browse. Maybe if you search the Kodak website, you can find info. on
it?

Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Swale [mailto:bj@caverock.net.nz]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:21 PM
To: Barbara Lee Spinnenweber; Koni-Omega Mailing List
Subject: RE: [KOML] Re; Kodachrome list

Hi Barbara,

I have issues I'd like to raise, that's why I want to join.
I'm also a Zuikoholic
in the Olympus group, and from discussion there, I know that others are
trying to join the Kodachrome group with as little success as I
have. So I
decided to ask in other groups I'm in.

You have to wait 3 weeks to get your slides back ? Your'e lucky
and don't
know it. It's 4 - 5 weeks for me and I still think it's worth
it. Mine are
processed in Melbourne (OZ), always come back very well
processed, and in
plastic mounts. It's like Christmas all over again when a box comes in.

I've never heard before anybody suggest that they are difficult
to scan. They
have been the professional standard for decades, so somebody must have
the procedure sussed.

I like the fine resolution, natural colours, and the long life. I have
Kodachromes that are 40+ years old and still OK.

Whereas I have A**a transparencies that gave up the ghost
within 10 years
of dark storage. Huge colour shift and loss. Where's the point in that?

Brian

From: Barbara Lee Spinnenweber
<BSpinnenweber@toromontprocess.com>
To: "'Koni-Omega Mailing List'"
<koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com>
Subject: RE: [KOML] Re; Kodachrome list
Date sent: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:30:29 -0700
Send reply to: "Koni-Omega Mailing List"
<koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com>

> Hey Brian,
> I never considered joining a film list. What would people on
the Kodachrome
> list talk about? I like Kodachrome 'cause the slides almost
look 3-d to me,
> but I'm real impatient to get my slides back from Kodak. 2-3
weeks is such a
> LONG time!!!
>
> Aren't Kodachrome slides difficult to scan?
>
> I think there's a couple of people on this list that have been around
> photography for quite some time and I bet that if you have a specific
> question regarding the film, somebody will give you their
opinion. I don't
> think this list is strictly limited to just the Koni. I mean
we all have to
> put film in 'em! I suppose we can dry shoot, but where's the
fun in that?
>
> Barbara
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Swale [mailto:bj@caverock.net.nz]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:48 PM
> To: koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com
> Subject: [KOML] Re; Kodachrome list
>
>
> Hello people,
>
> Can a member who is also in the Kodachrome list please advise
> if that list is
> still active?
>
> I have had no response to repeated requests to join.
>
> Sincerely, Brian Swale
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Brian Swale e-mail bj@caverock.net.nz
> 140 Panorama Road
> Christchurch 8008
> New Zealand
>
> Tel: +64 3 326-7447

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Brian Swale e-mail bj@caverock.net.nz
140 Panorama Road
Christchurch 8008
New Zealand

Tel: +64 3 326-7447



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